War and Remembrance
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War and Remembrance
Herman Wouk
Manufacturer: Back Bay Books
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ASIN: 0316954993

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These two classic works capture the tide of world events even as they unfold the compelling tale of a single North American family drawn into the very center of the wars maelstrom. These two multimillion-copy bestsellers capture all the drama, romance, heroism, and tragedy of the Second World War.

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars Is it really 5 stars?.......2007-06-15

Why did I give this novel 5 stars? As others have noted, there is more than a trace of soap opera in this saga. And the plot does stretch your credulity; how else to get the members of one family in all the right places during WWII at just the right time? And yet, if WOW and WAR are soap operas, they are very, very, good soap operas. In other words, you keep tuning in, you keep turning the pages, all 2000 of them. I first read these books when I was in the Army in the late 1970s. I took the books with me as I traveled around Europe on leave. I visited London, Paris, Italy, etc. And at night in my hotel room, I'd often find a chapter that described the very city I was visiting. Another reason these books stick in your memory after 30 years was the mini-series. The TV version reinforces the written version. So like other readers have commented, the characters become real after 2000 pages and 30 hours of TV. In fact 2000 pages and 30 hours of TV is more exposure than a lot of REAL people will ever get in their lives. Maybe that's why I find myself comparing a friend's son to Warren Henry, or a good looking blonde to Janice; two people who are totally fictitious. Just the fact that I'm taking the trouble to write a review 27 years after finishing these novels shows how much they stuck in my head. And I note that Herman Wouk is still alive. I can picture him in his rocking chair, passing his days reading reviews of his life's work on Amazon. Well, as others have said, WOW and WAR are America's version of War and Peace. In fact, they're better than War and Peace. Nuff said.

4 out of 5 stars Wouk opens the door to WWII.......2007-05-23

War and Remembrance and it's prequel Winds of War are eye openers for anyone who is not really familiar with the second world war. Wouk approaches the story in almost exactly the same way he told the story of Israel in The Hope and The Glory twenty years later - through the eyes and experiences of a family in the midst. I think I would have enjoyed it a little more if the similarities weren't so strong.

The story is very readable. For me the main take home was how little can be said about WWII in almost 2000 pages. Wouk gives a sense of many relevant issues, the scope of activities, the political basics, how truly global the war was. He engages you with the Henry family and challenges you, I think, to dig deeper into the war. Wouk opens the door on the Pacific theater, Poland and the Holocaust, Russian and Stalin, American logistic, American perspectives and attitude, FDR, Churchill, the collapse of the British empire, Hitler and the Nazis, lead lease, and Nuremburg to start. He covers none of this in detail (although Hitler does get quite a bit of attention in the second book) but clearly communicates the fact that this LONG story is just part of one family's story. Part of one of millions of stories.

5 out of 5 stars Quite simply the greatest American literature I've ever read........2006-12-24

I've always wondered why this book was so popular, along with its predecessor "The Winds of War". I tend to avoid huge books in excess of 1000 pages, because I've been disappointed in the past by time-wasting tomes.

For that reason, I avoided reading Herman Wouk's epics. Talk about judging a book by its cover, or in this case by its weight... But I finally did start reading these books, and was completely hooked from the first chapter of "The Winds of War". I couldn't wait to see what happened in "War and Remembrance".

I can't imagine following Wouk's suggestion that one can enjoy "War and Remembrance" on its own, without having first read "The Winds of War". Start with the first one. If you don't, you won't know what you're missing later. The characters in the saga are developed in "The Winds of War" such that it breaks your heart when they encounter all of their perils and difficulties in the second book. I've never felt such sadness about the fates of fictional characters the way I did in "War and Remembrance", but I also was exhilarated by their successes and shreds of happiness along the way.

The two minor criticisms I have with "War and Remembrance" in no way detract from the five-star rating I'm giving it. First: The book felt a bit rushed at the end. Even though most of the dangling plot threads were tied up neatly (as neatly as war allows), there were too few pages dedicated to some of the most jaw-droppingly significant events of the entire war, specifically having to do with Japan. And that leads me to criticism number two: The war in the Pacific got comparatively short shrift, as compared to Europe. I would have appreciated it if Wouk would have expounded more on Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Doolittle's raids, etc. The cast of characters would have had to be dramatically expanded to do this, and Wouk probably would have had to write a three-volume set instead of two. (I'm going to read Wouk's classic "The Caine Mutiny" next...that should satisfy my craving here.)

His treatment of the Nazi-fueled cancer in Europe was as gut-wrenching and historically complete as anyone could ask for. The story's been told many times, but it must still be told many more times as history marches on and people forget. The atrocities of the Third Reich are fully documented here, in all their filthy excesses, and it's horrible to see the characters you care about getting drawn into that maelstrom. Sadder still to realize that you're grieving about fictional characters, when so many million _actual_ people were slaughtered in this hell on earth.

Wouk writes from his background...his family emigrated here from Russia, and in the USA Wouk really explored and expounded upon his Jewish roots. Even though he wasn't in the Holocaust, he certainly did his homework. This is an important book for everyone, just for this reason alone: The man's a master storyteller.

Rare is it that you find a book - let alone two! - where you feel educated first and then entertained. "War and Remembrance", along with "The Winds of War", are stories I'll remember for the rest of my life. Shattering, epic, dramatic, and I'm quite confident I'll never encounter such great works again.

I am not Jewish, but I loudly add my voice to the chorus: "Never Again!"

5 out of 5 stars "Winds of War" and "War and Remembrance".......2006-11-27

I've noticed that there continues to be an interest in these books, but that there have also been some interesting comments about them on Amazon. So I'll add some thoughts of mine.

These novels, which are really one, extended, story cover World War II from antecedents to conclusion from the American viewpoint. Wouk uses the device of having one set of characters--in this case Naval Officer "Pug" Henry and his family--continually turn up in key situations so as to allow the novel to cover the entire epoch while having a continuous, human-level plot. ("War and Peace", obviously an inspiration to Wouk, is probably the most famous example of this approach.) Without this device the writer is forced to chose between taking a microscopic view of the period, or ending up with a set of connected stories without a unifying, human-level plot, or interrupting the novel with historical asides. The downside of this device is that it relies on a series of improbable events and coincidences to get a key character into each historical situation important to the story. Readers then need to suspend disbelief on this point to enjoy the novel; those that can't are going to be disappointed.

Comments on Amazon suggest that these books are anything from soap operas to the greatest historical novels ever written. Those who consider them soap operas can't suspend disbelief concerning the plot improbabilities. That is a fair reason to not enjoy novels like these, but doesn't really consign them to the level of soap opera. But neither are they among the greatest historical novels ever written. In fact, they aren't even the best novels about World War II that use this plot device; that honor goes to Vasily Grossman's "Life and Fate", which covers the war from the Soviet viewpoint, and is a great novel by a great writer and well worth reading.

At the end of the day, Herman Wouk may be remembered as one of the finest American novelists of the twentieth century, in that his best books were outstanding, if conventional, novels. But he was not a great writer, although he was a very good one. That said, these are two books that deserve to endure and gain new generations of readers. They are well written, keep moving and encourage the reader to keep turning pages, and give a grand overview of the World War II era. If you love history you might prefer learning about the era from nonfiction books by historians and participants. If you are looking for deep characterizations and profound insight into the human experience you should probably read smaller-scale novels that look inward rather than cover the broad sweep of a world-wide conflict. But for a reader looking for a well constructed and well written story that also provides an overview of the conflict that consumed the world in the 1930s and 40s, and set the stage for the geopolitics of the half century to follow, these are wonderful books.

5 out of 5 stars Great writing, history and storytelling.......2006-08-29

As I read this novel, I kept thinking that it should just never end-- just be a continuing story about the aftereffects of WW II
and how the Henry family continued in the following years.But of
course all good things must end at some time- so read this book
after the first- Winds of War- and enjoy it and come back to it and read it again.I am definitely reading more of Herman Wouk's novels!
Shrapnel in the Heart: Letters and Remembrance from the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial
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Shrapnel in the Heart: Letters and Remembrance from the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial
Laura Palmer
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Release Date: 1987-10-12

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For the first time, one book gives voice to the haunting, painful, tender, and healing tales of those who lost so much in America's least popular war.


From the Trade Paperback edition.

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5 out of 5 stars Read This Book!.......2004-07-27

If you lost a loved one in Vietnam then you'll understand the poingnancy, intimacy, loss, and anguish of the writers of these letters found throughout the book. It brings out the grim and stark realization that behind every name on the Wall is a story as told by the families who suffered a loss. The most important thing though is the book is about remembering those men and women who served and paid the ultimate sacrifice.

5 out of 5 stars One of the best.......2002-01-16

Shrapnel In the Heart is a book to be read by everyone no matter what generation they were born in. Shrapnel In The Heart is a book that has letters and rememberances left behind at the Vietnam War Memorial. Some of the letters tell the story about the people behind the letter. The stories are sad, but the courage of the men and women is a true inspiration. The people written about in this book were extrememly young (18, 19, 20) and it seems like they died in vain. But through their letters that were left behind it is easy to see that these young men knew their duty and refused to shirk from it. These men and women are true heroes.

5 out of 5 stars I wish all young people had to read this!.......2000-04-13

I read this book for a college history course and until now have thought very little about war, military, or world politics. Young people today rarely understand or realize what goes with becoming a soldier. This book gives real images of the devastation war brings from the people who lived through the tragedy of losing their loved ones. It opens our eyes to things we just shouldn't close our eyes on.

3 out of 5 stars Do I dare?.......2000-02-09

Do I dare to give this book a less-than-glowing review? I am inclined to do so not because of the power and dignity of the people and the stories in the book--those speak for themselves. It was Palmer (the author) that bothered me. As I was reading the book, I could not help but feel that she was trying to manipulate me, tugging at heartstrings that needed no tug to be moved by these heartfelt stories. I felt a bit patronized by her. A good book (or movie, or whatever), if it moves me, should not make me feel the push; this one did, and it left me feeling the way people usually feel when they were pushed in a direction that they would have gone anyway--irritated.

5 out of 5 stars Don't miss this one!.......1998-09-22

If you have any interest at all in the VietNam War you should not miss this book. It puts a face on all those whose names are inscribed on The Wall. Guaranteed to break your heart!
War and Remembrance in the Twentieth Century (Studies in the Social and Cultural History of Modern Warfare)
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    War and Remembrance in the Twentieth Century (Studies in the Social and Cultural History of Modern Warfare)

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    Drawing on material from Europe, America and the Middle East, leading scholars of twentieth century history address the issue of how wars, and the loss of life in wars, have been remembered collectively in the aftermath of conflicts such as the First and Second World Wars, the Spanish Civil War and the Algerian War. However, rather than focus on whole societies or ruling groups alone, this volume adopts a "social agency" approach to highlight the behavior of small groups and individuals who do the work of remembrance.
    Winds of War\War and Remembrance Boxed Set
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    5 out of 5 stars To Ricardo Ibarra from Guatemala (are you still there?)..........2002-02-17

    Yes, "War and Remembrance" is a continuation of "Winds Of War". It continues the Henry family story through Aaron and Natalie's problems as Jews trapped in Europe, Byron's service in the Pacific in submarines, Madeline's work in show business, and Pug's difficulties with his marriage to Rhoda (I won't give the story away, but Pamela Tudsbury continues to figure in that part). Now I wish that the publishers would release both books in e book format (along with "The Caine Mutiny"). My copies of all three books are falling apart.

    5 out of 5 stars The best I have read.......2000-02-01

    I am 21 years old and one of my favourite hobbies is study history. World War 2 is one of my favourite topics and Winds of War was a great book that make me live the war as if I was there. I also enjoy reading, and this book has been the best I ever read. Perhaps, beacause of my fascination with WW2. I do have a question. I haven't read yet War and Remembrance and I want to know if this book is the actual second part of The Winds of War. I mean, do we still find the Henry family?

    5 out of 5 stars Is it possible to find "War and Rememberance" in Czech?.......1999-07-08

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    5 out of 5 stars A True Epic Work!.......1999-07-01

    It is great to see WINDS and W&R offered as one work. Although Wouk correctly informs his readers that they can be read as separate works, these are actually two parts of one work and should be thought of as such. Nothing Herman Wouk has done before or since this work was finished can equal it. This is a work of Homerian proportion. It will last for centuries as a chronicle of the seminal event of the 20th century. Wouk weaves his tale with as much historical accuracy as possible and successfully develops characters that the reader comes to care deeply about. His creation of Gen. Armin von Roon to elaborate the German view of WWII is a master stroke. He mixes the real life protaganists with his fictional characters in a totally unobtrusive manner. In short, it is a work that is at once compelling, heartbreaking, and heartwarming. My only complaint, and it is a minor one, is that he ties things together in the last twenty or so pages somewhat too quickly and a tad haphazardly, as if someone had told him the work was already long enough. Too bad. By this time these characters have become such a part of you that another 50 pages would have been more than welcome!

    5 out of 5 stars Fascinating & Educational- a vivid picture of WW2-15 from Wa.......1999-05-19

    Being a 9th grade honors student, I was interested in expanding my knowledge of the world while also adding a few more famous books to my list. After asking my parents, I found that we had the books somewhere in our house, it turned out that we had two copies of War and Rememberance, and zero of Winds of War. So, not willing to give up my search, I borrowed the first from the Seattle public library, as our skimpy Redmond library failed to produce it. at first the almost 900 pages scared me but they flew by, and my requirement of 1000 pgs a semester at school began to look pitiful. I have to say that there were a few words I didn't know in the book, but it was a pleasure to find that many of the millions of vocab words from my LA class are actually used in literature. I definitely recommend this book to anyone, whether they know anything about WW2 or not. I learned more from it than i could have from reading a textbook on WW2, simply because it didn't put me to sleep. Sarah Coffin

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    Letters on the Wall: Offerings and Remembrances from the Vietnam Veterans Memorial
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    Michael Sofarelli
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    Since its creation in 1982, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial has become the most visited National Park Services site. Each year, 4.5 million people come to the Wall. Many of them leave letters or other special objects. Every night, park rangers collect and inventory these mementos—now numbering well over 90,000—and put them into government storage.

    Michael Sofarelli, the son of a Vietnam War veteran, has combed through the archives searching for the most gripping letters and objects: a mother awaiting word of her missing son, a former comrade recounting a battle story, a pair of well-worn ballet slippers, and a collection of cigars. These items are not only a tribute to the fallen soldiers; they pay tribute as well to the families and friends who waited at home and the comrades who have never forgotten their brothers. They tell the story of a war that is still being fought by many who served and a conflict that changed the lives of many Americans forever.

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    5 out of 5 stars Excellent book!.......2007-02-28

    This is an exceptional book - very emotional and touching. In fact, I found it hard to get through more than a few pages with a dry eye. As one who is too young to remember the Vietnam era, this book helped me to better understand this part of our country's history. Highly recommended!

    5 out of 5 stars Some Came Home.......2006-11-23

    Wow! What a tribute! It's about time, we've heard too much about the guys who came back broken in body and spirit, addicted to drugs and despair.
    BX*&#!!!
    Mike Sofarelli, a Marine, came home missing part of his leg but he came back whole.
    The proof of this is the wonderful book his son, Michael, has written as a tribute to him. The book is hopeful, heartbreaking and, at some points, wryly amusing.
    It tells the story of how the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial, The "Wall" went from being reviled when the design was unveiled to the most visited site in the National Parks system.
    The true authors are the thousands of loved ones who left rememberances near the monument.
    Buy the book, visit "The Wall" and thank a vet!
    Riot and Remembrance: The Tulsa Race War and Its Legacy
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    Riot and Remembrance: The Tulsa Race War and Its Legacy
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    Try as one might to disguise and forget the shameful events of the past, murder will out. So James Hirsch, author of the acclaimed book Hurricane, shows in this careful examination of a particularly shameful episode in modern American history. On the evening of May 31, 1921, fueled by rumors and newspaper headlines charging that a young black man had assaulted a young white women, a mob of armed white citizens burned much of the predominantly African American Greenwood section of Tulsa, Oklahoma, to the ground. More than 35, and as many as 300, Tulsans died, most of them black. Tulsa's city fathers did all they could to keep the news of this mass lynching from spreading; they found convenient scapegoats (including a blameless but prominent African American businessman) and went about excising mention of the Greenwood affair from official documents. Yet the memory of the crime lived on, and Hirsch's narrative shows how modern Tulsans translated that memory into justice--or at least the possibility thereof.

    A remarkable book on an astonishing incident too long overlooked, Riot and Remembrance tells us that history does not always belong to the victors, and that the past is never truly forgotten. --Gregory McNamee

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    A best-selling author investigates the causes of the twentieth century's deadliest race riot and how its legacy has scarred and shaped a community over the past eight decades. On a warm night in May 1921, thousands of whites, many deputized by the local police, swarmed through the Greenwood section of Tulsa, Oklahoma, killing scores of blacks, looting, and ultimately burning the neighborhood to the ground. In the aftermath, as many as 300 were dead, and 6,000 Greenwood residents were herded into detention camps. James Hirsch focuses on the de facto apartheid that brought about the Greenwood riot and informed its eighty-year legacy, offering an unprecedented examination of how a calamity spawns bigotry and courage and how it has propelled one community's belated search for justice. Tulsa's establishment and many victims strove to forget the events of 1921, destroying records pertaining to the riot and refusing even to talk about it. This cover-up was carried through the ensuing half-century with surprising success. Even so, the riot wounded Tulsa profoundly, as Hirsch demonstrates in a compelling combination of history, journalism, and character study. White Tulsa thrived, and the city became a stronghold of Klan activity as workingmen and high civic officials alike flocked to the Hooded Order. Meanwhile, Greenwood struggled as residents strove to rebuild their neighborhood despite official attempts to thwart them. As the decades passed, the economic and social divides between white and black worlds deepened. Through the 1960s and 1970s, urban renewal helped to finish what the riot had started, blighting Greenwood. Paradoxically, however, the events of 1921 saved Tulsa from the racial strife that befell so many other American cities in the 1960s, as Tulsans white and black would do almost anything to avoid a reprise of the riot. Hirsch brings the riot's legacy up to the present day, tracing how the memory of the massacre gradually revived as academics and ordinary citizens of all colors worked tirelessly to uncover evidence of its horrors. Hirsch also highlights Tulsa's emergence at the forefront of the burgeoning debate over reparations. RIOT AND REMEMBRANCE shows vividly, chillingly, how the culture of Jim Crow caused not only the grisly incidents of 1921 but also those of Rosewood, Selma, and Watts, as well as less widely known atrocities. It also addresses the cruel irony that underlies today's battles over affirmative action and reparations: that justice and reconciliation are often incompatible goals. Finally, Hirsch details how Tulsa may be overcoming its horrific legacy, as factions long sundered at last draw together.

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    5 out of 5 stars Legacy of Remembrance.......2007-01-23

    I read Martha Southgate's novel of three generations of black Tulsa women, each hiding a horrible tragedy. The name of the book is THIRD GIRL FROM THE LEFT. The oldest woman, Mildred, has lived through the Tulsa race riots of 1921 and has kept her secrets well. After reading this accomplished novel I wanted to know more about the holocaust in Tulsa, and to find out why it was so underreported at the time and for the next 50 years. James Hirsch's book seems to be about the best of a new crop of revisionist history, and I read the whole thing in about two and a half hours.

    At this late date there is no smoking gun, and a five month search for rumored mass graves in the surrounding areas of Tulsa proper turned up nothing out of the ordinary. That will never stop people from assuming that more than the 36 victims of vigilante action were killed, their bodies disposed of summarily. Hirsch thinks that the figure is probably somewhere between 75 and 300. Thousands of people lost their homes, and acres of Greenwood, the so called "black Wall Street" were burned to the ground. The famed historian John Hope Franklin came to Tulsa four years after the riots and bears witness today to the sense that, in 1920 black Oklahomans had made some definite progress, but after the catastrophe they lost their confidence and never could make up the backwards steps. Of course trauma studies indicate that such a devastating blow can never be recuperated, not entirely. That is why the issue of reparations has come to the forefront of the debate in recent times, for it seems, following Freud, that money is the only thing that people really sit up and take notice of, and as such it is the only proper way of dissolving guilt from human relations. (One of Hirsch's chapters is called, "Money, Negro," which is what Hope Franklin told a black politician who asked him what reparations represent.)

    The latter half of the book is almost a personality parade as two men, the aforemention pol, Don Ross, squares off against the driven, white liberal who wrote extensively about the forgotten tragedy as early as 1971--Scott Ellsworth. Neither of the two men care a fig about the other, it's plain to see, while elegant, courteous and magisterial John Hope Franklin rises above it all with his super acuity and his refusal to bend principles.

    5 out of 5 stars THE FIRE STILL BURNS...............2006-03-17

    this is a well put together book. the history of which was only 85 years ago is ugly but yet THE BURNINGS CONTINUE. the history of tulsa oklahoma at least on the black side demonstrates that blacks were never lazy and that we wanted a piece of the "american pie". in 2006 after the death of Mrs. King it will take you more than two hands to count the burnings of churches after her death. THE BURNINGS STILL CONTINUE. this book demonstrates that blacks are not lazy,or even 3/5ths of a human being or sub-human rather. ever since 1619 8 years after the king james bible, us blacks wanted all the good things in life as well. it took a long time to come, but we started to do for self rather than have it done for us by masters who did not know us or care! if we could not live along side the masters we lived next door meaning on the other side of town. naturally we would build a church and a school and yet still be slaves. now if our town that we built up became to nice, or just better than theres they would riot. before 1865 and well into the early 1900,s all riots were white inspired. riots were synonymous with whites only. only free people could riot. a slave held against his will does not riot but revolt and obviously thats what all living things do when held against there will.
    a phrase by public ememy is " it took a nation of millions to hold us people back". (i can see why the kkk wears the mask, because you might of had presidents out ther lynching as well) this book demonstates how media,police,mayor and even govenor was all part of what was conspired against the black people of tulsa. reader if you research media you will find all types of racist media that inspired riots. in this book the media lied as usually, and said a black boy sexually assualted a white girl. next thing you know everything is burned down and hundreds of people die. this book covers one riot in one city. there were hundreds of riots maybe even thousands in different cities all for the same reason; to keep the black man down! but tulsa was a lot different obviously because it was compared to wall street which is synonymous with money. this is a great book but i encourage the readers to get a book first on riots in general and then get a book on a riot per riot. fire is synonymous with the white man. in europe where it was cold and always cloud covered they had no sunshine(no tans either)so they worshipped fire. today the racist christians burn there own cross? THE BURNING STILL CONTINUES AND ITS TIME FOR THEM "TO GET OVER IT" like us blacks are told so often.

    5 out of 5 stars Race War in Black & White.......2003-04-10

    RIOT AND REMEMBRANCE is a detailed look at the tragic Tulsa race war of 1921. The 1921 Tulsa race war story is simular to the well-known Rosewood, Florida event but on a much larger scale.

    Mr. Hirsch includes both sides of the "truth", the black truth and the white truth. The entire event had been essentially remove from hisory until recently.

    Mr. Hirsh's attention to detail makes one feel like they were in Tulsa MAY 1921. The racist Jim Crow laws along with the irresponsible Tulsa Tribune's reporting created an atmosphere that turned a simple misunderstanding into a race war.

    African-Americans dared to stand up for themselves and the result was the entire Greenwood section of Tulsa was obiterated. Afterwards the city attempted to then take the Greenwood area away from the land owners.

    Mr Hirsch includes testamony and documentation from black and white folks that were involved directly and via historical research.

    He shows us how the story went from a whisper to the front page of major newspaper as the story was exposed.

    See from a modern point of view, the fact that an event even approaching this scale actually took place is surreal. The nefarious pathological additude towards African-Americans during this time in history is beyond comprehension.

    5 out of 5 stars Gave me a new perspective on my history.......2002-12-30

    I had only heard of the Tulsa race riot of 1921 a few years ago, even though I went to high school in the early 1980s in Bartlesville, OK, 45 miles north of Tulsa (and have driven on the highways that now run through the Greenwood section more times than I can count). I remember the fear that was passed on to me about that section of Tulsa and the dread of facing students from its high school whenever we played them in football, a darker fear than seemed warranted for a city of its size. Now, knowing the history of the race riots and the fears both sides had of sparking another one, I understand why.

    Hirsch does an amazing job of piecing together from both "official" and oral history the story of the riot, as well as what led up to it, and the racial climate surrounding the event. While he clearly favors the "black" side of the story, he doesn't give in to the most extreme views, and he does give the "white" views time and space. He also points out the difficult questions of reparations, and why there are no easy answers. Most importantly, "Riot and Remembrance" shows the readers why history can never be neatly tied up and packaged. We will probably never know the details of what happened on the ugly night and day of May 31-June 1, 1921, in Tulsa. We'll never know for sure the death toll, or what exactly was in the hearts of the African-Americans, the "ruffian" white, or the city leaders who coveted the Greenwood land. But at least with Hirsch's book, we have a chance to ponder all sides and draw our own conclusions.

    And, by the way, this is one Oklahoman who thinks the state and city SHOULD pay reparations in the form of scholarships and economic development in North Tulsa. I suspect I am in the minority, though!

    5 out of 5 stars The most important event no one has heard of.......2002-02-06

    In addition to an important new chapter about race relations in America, James Hirsch's book is must reading for anyone interested in how histories are suppressed and can be rescued. There is no more important story that no one knows than the one covered here. The fact that the Tulsa riot never made it into our history books makes one wonder what other aspects of our collective past have slipped our notice.
    Captain America: War & Remembrance
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    Captain America: War & Remembrance
    Roger Stern , John Byrne , Don Perlin , Roger McKenzie , and Joe Rubenstein
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    Captain America's endless war on crime and tyranny sets him against new enemies and old, from an army of robot replicas to the black deeds of Baron Blood! Plus: Cap for president? Guest-starring the Avengers, S.H.I.E.L.D. and Union Jack! Featuring Cobra, Mister Hyde and Batroc the Leaper! The complete Stern/Byrne run, culminating with the standard-setting version of Cap's awe-inspiring origin! Collects Captain America #247-255.

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    5 out of 5 stars Arguably the best run of Captain America..........2007-07-21

    This collects the full 9-issue run on Captain America by Roger Stern and John Byrne. As far as I'm concerned, these are arguably the best Captain America issues of all-time.

    First of all, Byrne was at his artistic peak (circa his work on X-Men), and together, he and Stern breathed new life into a stale character by delving into his long convulated past while also giving Steve Rogers a real life in the modern world.

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    Winds of War War and Remembrance
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      Herman Wouk
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      Unfinished Journey: A World War II Remembrance
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      5 out of 5 stars What an inspiring young man!.......2006-08-08

      I throughly enjoyed this book. I gave copies to several friends who also enjoyed it. Through his letters home, it is obvious that Morris Redmann was an exceptional young man. I felt that I got to know him through these letters. Beautifully put together.

      5 out of 5 stars A Voice from the past.......2006-07-14

      Anyone enjoying reading memoirs of veterans from WWII will find this work compelling. The only difference is this is a memoir from the grave - the thoughts, actions, hopes and dreams of a very young man who died at nineteen in the frozen Ardennes in 1945. He was in law school at eighteen. I had the pleasure to write the forward for this work, and Morris Redmann was indeed special: faithful, humorous, poetic, and patriotic; a man we would all have loved to have known. He left us his letters to do just that.

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      5 out of 5 stars Heart-warming glimpse of the All American Boy.......2006-02-07

      This book is a labor of love. A younger child's devotion to an older sibling. Morris B. Redmann, Jr. was the eldest of 10 children. He once said that it is a "Noble Obligation to serve one's country..." This book is a compilation of his letters home (V-mail) that were steadfastly kept by his Father and preserved for all time by my Father the author. It was the infamous shoebox full of letters that Uncle Morris wrote home that my Dad kept in the attic and always said he would write a book about them one day. Well, he did! And what we have is a heart-warming glimpse into a young American Boy's life. One that he sacrificed gladly for his country and for the Liberty that we all enjoy. Although he is laid to rest in the Luxembourg American Military Cemetary, his spirit lives on in his siblings and now for posterity, in the words and writing of his little brother, Kerry P. Redmann! Consummatum est!
      Ireland, the Great War and the Geography of Remembrance (Cambridge Studies in Historical Geography)
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        Ireland, the Great War and the Geography of Remembrance (Cambridge Studies in Historical Geography)
        Nuala C. Johnson
        Manufacturer: Cambridge University Press
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        The Irish experience of the Great War, and its commemoration, is the setting for Nuala Johnson's pioneering examination of "the landscape of the national imaginery". Her study represents a major contribution to cultural geography and to the historiography of remembrance. The book combines theoretical perspectives with original primary research revealing how memory literally occurred in post-1918 Ireland, and the various conflicts and struggles that were both cause and effect of the process.

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        Nuala C. Johnson explores the complex relationship between social memory and space in the representation of war in Ireland. The Irish experience of the Great War, and its commemoration, is the location of Dr Johnson's sustained and pioneering examination of the development of memorial landscapes, and her study represents a major contribution both to cultural geography and to the historiography of remembrance. Attractively illustrated, this book combines theoretical perspectives with original primary research showing how memory literally took place in post-1918 Ireland, and the various conflicts and struggles that were both a cause and effect of this process. Of interest to scholars in a number of disciplines, Ireland, The Great War and The Geography of Remembrance shows powerfully how Irish efforts to collectively remember the Great War were constantly in dialogue with issues surrounding the national question, and the memorials themselves bore witness to these tensions and ambiguities.

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